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Chapter 13 - page 27

11 Jun 2011 06:57 pm

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k-bear, 11 Jun 2011 07:01 pm

Hotter?
I believe I know whooo.
>:)

hallowrine1213, 11 Jun 2011 07:16 pm

You tell him!!!!!!!!!!

AltoSonium, 11 Jun 2011 07:18 pm

Ooh~ Now THAT is what I call a 'Manly Slap'!

elianthos, 11 Jun 2011 07:21 pm

Yeeeeee, Daddy bestowed the mighty educational slap, both literally and figuratively! 8D Also, yay for the pro-Lio speech.
Foxy'd better man up, feel the shame and apologize to the lady who loves him oh-so-very much. You can do it, Sally :> .

Typo? - Bottom left panel: either 'little bratS' or 'a little brat '

SecretComicLover (Guest), 11 Jun 2011 07:33 pm

Whoa, a slap... does that mean there'll be a duel?

Added: As much as I dread the thought of using violence or intimidation as emphasis in parenting (too paterfamilia-ish for my liking, perhaps the right wing would be proud--and violence against someone who's supposed to be near and dear to you is just jarring for me, even though I fear I wouldn't be above that, perhaps even to the point of fatal injury, if I get frustrated enough about not understanding what they really want after all the crying, screaming or yelling, and about all the crying, screaming and yelling in general... and of course, I'm still doing a lot of that myself; how can I handle a child, and expect one to listen to me and see me as a good example, when I still feel like a child myself?), Foxy probably did get off relatively lucky... Dr. Fynn could have given the lad one of his infamous spankings...

And I kind of guessed it had something to do with Foxy not catching on that Lio doesn't go for the bold ones... Will that be enough to convince him now? And of course, there's the usual manner of beliefs about women who move quickly into the deeper stuff, or do it for pleasure instead of for love (if such exist in people's minds), namely assuming they are not picky about who they do it with (people they reject tend to claim that they're not supposed to be picky if they act like that, I mean think of Les Miserables, of the men who wanted to jump Fantine, and found out she had a child and the father didn't marry her, and assumed that she was selling herself, and also later on when she really did have to)... That all-or-nothing idea behind women's sexuality has been around for a long time, and it's not gone yet (especially from the justice system who asks, what were you doing out late, what were you wearing, how far did you intend to go with the accused, did you go that far with anyone else before, etc.)... Will that be fixed, too?

dedasaur, 11 Jun 2011 07:36 pm

For duels you slap with a glove or something else.

That's a father's slap.

Isolde (Guest), 11 Jun 2011 08:53 pm

Lol not man enough to receive a punch

66scarylion44, 11 Jun 2011 09:00 pm

Duels Actually, you slap the man in the face or throw your glove at his feet. If he doesn't accept the challenge, he is dishonored. Some duels were fought to the death or first blood, while in a duel with pistols both parties can intentionally miss, and honor is kept.

dedasaur, 11 Jun 2011 09:16 pm

What you are referring to is a tradition started in the XVIII century and only established in the XIX century.

It's called "throwing down the gauntlet".
Before that many code duello were written, none of them official... the first official one date one century after this story takes place (1777).

Before that you needed just a challenge in response to a public offense. If the person is of a lower status you would not challenge them but have them whipped or whipped by your servants. If you still want to challenge them because they're not lower status but simply your inferior, you'd still want to offend them in public... but not touch them.
Hence the slapping with something you wear, glove, whip or whatever comes to your hand which, afterward became the throwing down the gauntlet.
:D

This information does not come from wikipedia.

xXnerd101Xx, 12 Jun 2011 12:19 am

Oh my, look at Foxy's little face! Awwww... Him and Doc are tied in second place for me. Cat is in first place!!! XD I still love them all. But I was as surprised as Kes and Cat about the manly face slap.

66scarylion44, 12 Jun 2011 01:10 am

What is a "wikipedia"?
There's a book called "Back in the Day: 101 Things Everyone Used to Know How to Do", which includes how to duel with pistols.

elianthos (Guest), 12 Jun 2011 02:29 am

@scarylion: wikipedia is THE users-based online encyclopaedia, very handy and very popular as a quick consultation tool nowadays.. In terms of accuracy and verified information is a hit-and-miss though as any registered user there can modify a page, regardless of his/her knowledge of the matter.
Just do a search with Google for wikipedia to see first-hand what it is.
By the way... Deda is a historian - among other things - and she based her search on many books and documents, not just one ;).

FarStar (Guest), 12 Jun 2011 10:25 am

I know I will get slapped, but if honeslty... I doubted that Lio loved Foxy for a long time... The others just aren't her type. xD Maybe it's because there was so little screen time of them doing anything else besides having sex or making out that I didn't catch the feeling of them creating talking/trusting relationships and such. Right now, it's the feeling, like she once talked about the trainer in her past... A hot guy who was submissive, and that's it. I, of course, want to believe it's not just that he is her type, but yeaaa.

(And as I most likely won't reply to any reply, please, don't flame or start treating me like fool/little kid just cause I don't think like Deda. You see, that's the wonder of reader and writer and people in general. Everyone has their own views and their own perceptions that aren't neceserily right or wrong. World isn't in black and white color, there are plenty of gray tones)

66scarylion44, 12 Jun 2011 11:19 am

@elianthos: I still don't know what a "wikipedia" is.

SecretComicLover (Guest), 12 Jun 2011 11:45 am

@FarStar I wonder if you took a leaf out of my book... people have been pretty upset about me for similar things...
Lio listened to Foxy, as a part of her caretaker role, and was sympathetic even before Dr. Fynn made Foxy her assignment (the chat in chapter 2, and cleansing his cut finger in chapter 4), and maybe she did get drawn to him more deeply at a few moments (there's one in Chapter 5, which I think was the earliest of those)... Perhaps there was potential for something all along, it was possible they could have done just as well if they started as friends, but since she thought she couldn't really expect something really deep and lasting, she didn't really notice it under the covers she put up until recently... That's just putting my view out there...

Megane-Chan, 12 Jun 2011 12:20 pm

You tell him!

elianthos, 12 Jun 2011 12:50 pm

@scarylion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page <--- suit yourself

FarStar (Guest), 12 Jun 2011 04:22 pm

Well, I guess after these few last chapters, a complete comic re-read is in order. I started to, but school got in the way. I already looked at some things differently in first few chapters and became more confused about some, but others understood more. So, yes, re-read is most likely in order. Still, not so sure if all my opinions will change (most likely - no), but till then I will most likely refrain from commenting.

And as for world color comment... I think all wise people realize and think like that, more or less. C:

dedasaur, 12 Jun 2011 07:12 pm

But I don't agree with any of my characters honestly XDD LOL

In fact Lio and Foxy have not had time to bond at all, if you ask me, she took care of him and listened to his problems but what she got out of it was mostly sex. How they created a relationship, if any... beats me.

I don't have an opinion I don't agree with my characters at all - I don't believe in love, I don't believe in marriage and I don't believe in many more things - but they have a life of their own and I think they are all worth telling about, without judgement. :D

I saw relationships begin in many different ways and people take them to different directions.

I plan Cat/Callista to be the antithesis of Lio/Foxy. Just as I plan Wes/Kes to be antithesis of Kane/Castalia. It's just that, I don't take sides.

Which one is right and which one is wrong is not for me to tell or judge, and I don't care to judge or tell either, it's just for you to recognize what you like and deem good or wrong... they are 4 different relationships to me and that's all. :D

FarStar (Guest), 12 Jun 2011 08:13 pm

Your reply was wonderful, Deda, thank you very much. C:
I think that creator of work must be ready to receive different opinions and reactions to the thing they have put in the work, and you're doing exactly that (isn't that part of the wonderful thing about creating something? But maybe that's just me).
I wish more artists joined in conversations like these more often, although that might be a little too much to ask, considering they also have to create more (especially as in your case, where there are wonderful daily updates). Also, your blog is lovely (I probably missed the couple drawing -> description game... stupid school -_-;)
I don't believe in typical love, so I can relate to that, too, a little (maybe).

SecretComicLover (Guest), 12 Jun 2011 09:42 pm

@Deda I guess I have a hard time figuring out what romantic love really is--friendship and desire can be part of it, but I keep wondering if there's more to it, since so much is written in praise of it...
I know it's not THE main priority to worry about in life (even for a woman, now), but I still really want to know of it, and I don't want to have lived without experiencing it--I might be all right if I don't get that wish, but I hope I do, and I hope I get to experience what may be a new definition of love, where you don't have to give up your whole self or sacrifice all your needs for your lover, but still share and live both as yourselves and each other... I guess that's all I have to say about that...

dedasaur, 13 Jun 2011 04:52 am

I wish I had more time but my job, sometimes takes 11 hours of my day (on top of that I draw balthasar).

Frankly to me it does not matter if you have opinions negative or positive on the character's behavior... that's what stories are for. I do care for opinion on HOW the story should go - if they come from no experience. I think an author is entitled to feel annoyed about that.

The only upsetting type of reader, for an author, is the one who does not pay attention and creates film in his/her own head while all the clues are there; the second most upsetting type are the ones who give suggestions beforehand without knowing what the original direction is supposed to be and if there's a thesis behind stuff LOL.

To me it works like that: there is a narrative compromise... if you accept it you enjoy the ride. If you don't accept it then you better move away and leave the person who enjoys the ride alone XDD for peace's sake! LOL

As for love... I am single, plan to stay single for the rest of my life. Because of the way I live my life I cannot have strings attached. (I also don't have the patience to deal with people 24/7 hahahaha)

Supervillain, 10 Jul 2011 11:06 am

I think this page is magnificently done!
It really shows Foxy's youth compared to the others CX (he's so adorable even when jumpign to conclusions! Slap him good Wes!)

I know its a serious page but omg I burst out laughing with "she would have slept with the whole crew by now!" HAHAHAHAHHAHA.....



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